The Traitors UK, Northern Lights Cornwall & Activewear for Dads | First Look

In this episode, we take a first look at The Traitors UK Season 4, breaking down why it’s one of the most talked-about shows right now.

We also explore the incredible experience of seeing the Northern Lights in Cornwall, how it happens, and what it’s really like witnessing something usually reserved for much further north.

Plus, activewear for dads .....

Along the way, we also share stories about door-to-door sales of block paving and the unexpected reality of dealing with a mouldy car.

If you’re into UK TV shows, trending events, parenting lifestyle, and real-life experiences, this episode delivers honest reactions, humour, and first-hand insights.

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We come back for Series Five with new “dad firsts”, fresh nonsense, and a surprisingly useful run of lessons from door-knock deals to mouldy cars. Along the way we obsess over The Traitors, test how funny ChatGPT can be, and end up staring at the Northern Lights while asking serious questions about magnets.

• pitching activewear for dads and the temptation of free gear
• podcast rankings updates 
• why The Traitors UK is great television and a psychology lesson
• confirmation bias, performing guilt, and noticing “tells” everywhere
•  buying block paving from a doorstep pitch and the handshake panic
•  discovering a mould-infested car and getting it professionally cleaned
• asking ChatGPT if Charles and Eddie would lie
• what your ChatGPT history reveals about getting older
• seeing the Northern Lights in Cornwall and the science behind aurora
•  photos versus the naked eye 
• magnetic north moving, magnets feeling like magic, and how to make one

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Transcript

Back For Series Five

SPEAKER_02 0:07

And I guess that's why they call it episode two time on my hands. Could be time for you laughing like children rotting like lovers. Rolling like thunder under the covers. And I guess that's why it's series five, episode two.

SPEAKER_00 0:36

That's more like it. Series five, episode two. And I guess that's why they call it episode two. Very good. What a that that was that's a bit of class, that is one of that's a bit of class. Bit of class. It's still eating uh snacks. For those who have this is episode one.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

There is a couple of good episodes, we promise.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

Aliens is just continuing to eat pretzels as if they're going out of fashion. But luckily he stopped doing six seven now. Six seven. Seven months later. Six to seven months after the trend. We are doing it here on First Link.

SPEAKER_02 1:20

It might be six seven months between episode one and episode two. Who knows?

Fishpond of Feedback And Freebies

SPEAKER_00 1:23

It probably has been. Probably has been one of those who knows. But it's good to be back for a presentation. Series five is back.

SPEAKER_02 1:30

A few segments are still here. And one of those is the fishbonner feedback. Fishbonder feedback. Fishbonner feedback. Grab me shackle. Oof. Dip it in the pond. Splish. Do you dip a pot? No, you don't you don't dip a rod in the pond, do you? Do you? It depends.

SPEAKER_00 1:54

Depends on the mood.

SPEAKER_02 1:55

You dip your end. No, what do you call it?

SPEAKER_00 2:00

I don't know what you'd call it. What do you call your rod, Williams?

SPEAKER_02 2:05

A rod. A fishing rod.

SPEAKER_00 2:08

Oh, okay, I beg your pardon. I thought you were being rude.

SPEAKER_02 2:10

No, no, well, no. And fish wanted to be back. You did expect lots of uh messages. Oh, hundreds.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Hundreds after we've been away for so long. Where are you? Come back.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

Not really. So obviously we had a one listener write in and make content before saying we should try harder. So we're late with our recording. We've not we've not tried harder. We have got in the way and a request. And I presume we're the only ones they sent this message to.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

To promote some activeware. Oh.

unknown 2:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Is it a dad tiv wear? No, it's it's activeware.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Oh, we should make activeware for dads. We should be able to do that. Listen, I'm trademarking that dad tivwear. Dactiveware. Okay. There we go. Your business. Activeware for dads who like to do stuff with the kids like being like being a horsey with the kids on the back and going to the park and jogging with the kids. Like, yeah, yeah. Comfortable clothes for dads. Nothing but elasticated waists. No buttons. There might be a market for that.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

There might be a market for that.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

But yeah, bright colours. Everything's like a 1992 goalkeeper shirt from the Premier League. Yes. Bright colours. Like, yeah. I'm a genius, Williams. I'm a genius. Now I've said it, you publish this. I am trademarking that. Nobody ripped that idea off.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

Well, you got a little while, so let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 3:52

Rankings. We're late. Oh my god, no, you haven't told us about the activewear request. Well, that was it. They've asked us to promote their activewear. Are they gonna pay us? No, I think they just sent us free activewear.

activewear For Modern Dads

SPEAKER_00 4:05

Well well, yeah, let's do that then. Should we do it? Yeah, because then I can get it. Let's do it. Let's let's let's promote some activewear. Because then what we can do with it is we can reskin it. Wherever they send us, we can put our new logo on, uh that tive where easy for you to say, logo on top of it and flog it down builds to market.

SPEAKER_02 4:26

Hmm. I mean be careful because they obviously listen to this, hence why they've contacted us.

SPEAKER_00 4:30

So oh yeah, yeah, maybe they do. But that's alright. We'll just well if they give us some activeware, we'll definitely flog it. Yeah, we'll promote it. Okay. Yeah, we love activeware. We love active wear. What's your favourite kind of activeware?

SPEAKER_02 4:43

I don't remember the brand, but we'll wear it on the next the next pod.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Yes, on the next pod that won't be filmed, but we can just say we're wearing it and pretend. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

They'll be alright with that, right? I was doing a uh bit of a wardrobe clear out. Oh yeah. And there I never actually checked anything away because I'm always like, well, I might wear it one day. But I found like all the stuff when I was jogging when I was the last time I jogged was in my 20s. And just I had some underarmour, underarmour it's called shorts. Yeah, the same as Anthony Joshua sort of wears. I I've I had a pair of those.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

So you're very similar in physique to Anthony Joshua.

SPEAKER_02 5:23

Exactly, exactly. Very similar in the shape. Stature. Yeah, maybe depending on the the brand, you know, this of this active wear. May I get some photos with me in the in active wear shorts?

SPEAKER_00 5:34

I would pay to see you in underarmour shorts doing six seven bowling ball style. Six seven. I mean, I tell ya, there'd be a calendar in that. There would be absolutely 100% be a calendar.

Rankings And Listener Shout Outs

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Oh, there you go. There you go. What watch this space, listeners? Or listen.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Podcast rankings. Oh, how are we doing? The the well, the usual one. So yeah, we for a particular period in time we ranked fourth for fascinating trivia again. That keeps popping up. Excellent. And number five for family first parenting. Oh, very good. And actually, which you'd thought we would anyway, but round our number seven for gnomes. Oh, there you go. We're good. So we're starting to hit that market.

SPEAKER_00 6:22

What's being us for the search gnomes?

SPEAKER_02 6:25

What is ahead of us? I mean, probably say it's actually about gnomes, like gardening changes on original. Probably. And then on Spotify, less so, but we did hit number 11 for off-beat learning. Oh, there you go. Number 12 offbeat family stories. And also 12 for TV Culture Island.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

TV Culture Island, my goodness. Well, I am going to talk about some TV today from Ireland, so there we go.

SPEAKER_02 6:57

There you go. That will keep that market going. Also, a little shout out and thank you to Lianne's mum. One of our listeners, Leanne, and one of our listeners, Leanne's mum, for sharing that we were top of her Spotify route for 2025.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Amazing. That's unbelievable. Amazing. Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 7:19

That's really good.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Oh, thanks, Leanne's mum.

Why The Traitors Works

SPEAKER_02 7:22

Hello, Leanne's mum, and thank you. Craig, first look.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Okay, well, yeah, so I I was pondering today because last episode we introduced a new a new feature called dad firsts. So some I'm gonna I'm gonna do some dad firsts for my first look. And I'm gonna start because this this was the one I was gonna talk about. I was like, it's kind of a dad first, really. But I think as you just mentioned, TV, this isn't a dad first, actually. I'll just use this as a um as something to talk about because I loved it. And the woman who won it was from Northern Ireland, and again, just like 6-7, we are bang on trend with what's current and happening, but the traitors, we never got to talk about the traitors. It is a great show, and uh yeah, full I've probably already given away a spoiler that the person who won it was from this country of Northern Ireland. So anybody who is months and months behind on their pop culture will uh now get a spoiler warning. Spoiler warning, we're gonna talk about the Traitors UK season four. Um but it was just the most some of the most oh, they were so good, weren't they? It was such good television, and it was such an enjoyable uh series to have on. So uh it I had myself Williams, like once the Friday episode had finished and you knew there wasn't another one until like the following Wednesday, I had that prang of like no like and uh you know it's good when you just can't wait like to next week's episode, and I felt like I haven't had that kind of episodic feeling since probably Game of Thrones, where I was like, I can't wait to get to the next week, can't watch to get the next one. So Traitor's Island, we haven't started to watch it yet. So this is the next one on the on the watch list. So we've watched all the American ones, and we've watched we started to watch New Zealand, I think, but then we're like, nah, this is rubbish. But yeah, Ireland is the next one we want to watch. So we're gonna watch that. But yeah, what did you did you enjoy it?

SPEAKER_02 9:32

Yeah, yeah, I love traitors. Although I was I was quite late getting to traitors. My parents are really into it, and they kept asking, Have you seen traitors? and like and I kept sort of saying to them because I I couldn't get my head around that, so you know who the traitors are, and to me at that time it was like it's a silly pointless show because you know who the traitors are, and it'd be better if you didn't know who you were, type of thing.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

But once you watch it, it kind of yeah, you have to know what they are because you need to see what's you need to see both perspectives to see how stupid some people are.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

Well, that was quite interesting this year where they added the the red, the red traitor. Oh, and she was brilliant, wasn't she? Yeah, well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 10:14

Oh, I couldn't stand her, but like I love the I love the chaos she caused. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I couldn't stand her. I was like, nah, it's so annoying. The blonde Welsh woman, 60 doing it for the 60 60-year-old ladies. But it was good, it was it was a good show. They casted it very they cast it very well.

Bias, Suspicion, And Acting Guilty

SPEAKER_02 10:31

Yeah, it's great from a a geeky psychological point of view and how people act and how you don't really know people, especially because they go in, they've never met anyone before. Well, turns out some people have met each other before, but you can't tell if they've changed their personality or attitudes to being a traitor because you didn't know what they were like before. That's true, so yeah, and but then just the way people's minds pick up on every little detail and then just unravel it and turn it into how they are a traitor, even though when they're not, it's like yeah, and they build up such a good case and story that oh, they must be a traitor because they did that, that that, and then oh, yeah, it makes sense, but actually, you know they're not.

SPEAKER_00 11:18

It's not true, but you can say that for everything, couldn't you? Like every kind of trick, they all say that the like history is written by the victors, and anything you could unpack it and kind of say, No, that's confirmation bias. Like all the people like, I it's gotta be, it's gotta be them. I'm so sure it's definitely you, 100% you, and they they kind of convince themselves, and then when it's shown not to be, they just look foolish, and you think we're all a bit like that at times, aren't we?

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Like, sort of if someone, even though I know I'm not guilty of whatever accusation, but my mind always turns to oh, but they think I'm guilty, and then I start acting like I'm guilty, and that would yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Do you do you still kind of if you see a police car, do you suddenly start behaving? Oh, I'm driving fast enough, or you know, have a lot of hands on the same wheel.

SPEAKER_02 12:13

I go back to watch me days if you're filming something and you want someone just to walk normally across the across the screen. Oh yeah, try to walk normally whilst being filmed. That's something you do every day. If you've been filmed or act walk normally, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Michael MacKettered is kissed in he about it. It's like you know, he's talking about the the way you try on shoes and trousers. You never walk the same way as you walk when you're trying on shoes and trousers. Because like when you try on a shoe, you're like pushing your foot into it and wiggling it out of the room.

SPEAKER_02 12:46

George always tells me off like where from wearing like a new pair of jeans or a t-shirt and top, I always sort of like breathe in shoulders back.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

Wow, ladies and gentlemen, I can confirm he really does look like Anthony Joshua. Flip mate, if Anthony Joshua actually got some mus more muscles for why as you know, we've been married for a couple years now and been together for 10.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

But he's like, just breathe out.

SPEAKER_00 13:15

Just walk normally. Here you are. Well, yeah, that that was uh we went off track a little bit there, but the trainers it was excellent.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

Um random access my random access memory.

Doorstep Block Paving Dad First

SPEAKER_00 13:28

It is your random access memory, and then so sticking with the island theme, dad first, Williams. I this this was a good one. This was we we for I have been pursued and uh had the door knocked. As an Eastern and Irish Ireland in Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland, I have been pursued by the travelling community who do driveways and block paving. And Daniel knocked my door and he wanted to know if he wanted some block paving done. He gave me a price, and I was like, Oh no, and it just so happened we did want some block paving done. So it was like okay, he must have smelt it, he must have smelt blood. And then I was like, Oh, how much? No, I can't, oh gave me all the spill, like uh, you know, just don't tell anybody. He came back a week later and said, Listen, I just can't, I can't find the money right now. I can't. A few weeks later, he came back, and it was amazing how much the price dropped. He's like, You do work in the area, I can do it for this next to nothing, bloody bloody blood. Will you shake my hand? Will you shake my hand? And you know what I did? I shook the man's hand, and straight away I was like, What have I done? What have I done?

SPEAKER_02 14:44

That's but that's more than a written contract.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

Oh, 100%. Yeah, 100%. And uh they did a cracking job, so I was it turned out really well. I'm very happy with everything, it's all good. So, but that was definitely like one of those experiences you hear about people kind of knocking doors to do. I I blink twice if you're done. They've done a cracking job. No, they did, they did a cracking job. Uh so that was a dad first. Nothing to do with the kids there, just that was actually just a human being first. As a as a grown-ass man, I've never uh I've never purchased block paving before from somebody who knocks my doors and says you want some block paving.

SPEAKER_02 15:26

Yeah, I've never purchased anything, not even from an Avon lady, if they still exist at the door before. Yeah, it's funny. Not even cookies from uh Boy Scouts. Really? But they do that. That's an American thing, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 15:40

That's an American thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

But yeah, I've never bought anything from anyone that's knocked on my door. No.

Tip Run Leads To Mouldy Car

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Well, we had a place the door. I pick through the curtains, the blinds go away. Just throw stuff for the squeeze, squeeze like a ferry-up liquid bottle through the with water fill or a syringe from the doctors when you were a kid. You shoot that through the letterbox at them. Go away. No, thank you. Had another dad first, Williams. So this, as you know, as a manly man, you know, you sometimes go to the tip, don't you? You go to the tip. Oh I'd love the tip. Well, before before Christmas, I went to the tip. I loaded my car up with shit from the garden, went to the tip, didn't I? You know, and we are very privileged, and we have two cars. So I used my car, my old banger car, to go to the tip. And then over Christmas and into January and stuff, we hadn't really used my car, having been to the tip. And me being super smart, not using the car after taking some wet stuff to the tip, returned to my car to use my car to find my car had been taken over. It's like something from The Last of Us. Um my car had just grown mould and spores and absolutely everywhere. Seat belts were moulding, the chairs were mouldy, and I was like, Oh my days, what am I gonna do? I took it to a specialist who ozoned it. So, I mean, I've had no luck with mold. You had you told me about some mould issues you've had. Obviously, anybody who's listened to this has heard about our mould issues in the house, and now the car got mouldy. I'm like, Will you never learn? So I I found a guy in Newton Arts who does like a really good service, and he kept the car for 24 hours and effectively steamed it and did everything, and I got it back in the car.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

Pretty much well, that's what I said to him.

ChatGPT Gets The Best Joke

What Your Prompts Say About Age

SPEAKER_00 17:40

He said, I told him about it. I said, Oh, you know, how much feed to set it on fire? But he fixed it, he saw it all out for me. Yeah, done a cracking job. So that was a dad first as well, having a moldy car. It's a definitely car. It's the same car and it's now mold-free. And yeah, and then so that was interesting. So just be careful if you're taking wet stuff to the tip. Like, make sure you dry your car out afterwards, get open the windows, get a dehumidifier or something. Don't leave your car sitting on the drive for nearly three months and then go back and wonder what's happened. And there was another thing that happened. I uh sometimes, like, obviously, we talk about AI a lot on this, but I had to ask two episodes, two episodes before you go. Well, I asked my AI something because do you know the song Charles and Eddie? Uh the the Would I Lie to you song by Charles and Eddie? Right? Look into my ass, can you see the upper word? Oh, beautiful Would I lie to you, baby? Would I lie to you? Uh-oh. I was listening to the song, and all I kept thinking was they're doing a lot of protesting. Like all they're doing is asking, you know, would I lie to you? Would I lie to you? And I thought, the lady doth protest too much. So I don't know why, but I said to Chat GPT, Charles and Eddie sung the song, Would I Lie to You? The question is, would they? They're doing a lot of protesting. I'm not sure that they wouldn't lie to me. And Chat GPT gave me an answer that made me piss myself laughing. And I just thought, oh dear. So Chat GPT can now do marketing better than I can, it can do graphic design better than I can. It is funnier than I am. I'm like, I'm I'm just being replaced. I mean, all of us are, but they they came back and said, Ha! Like, even the nuance of like the ha, fair question. They do protest a lot for two lads who is whose entire brand rests on being trustworthy. So it says Charles and Eddie built a whole emotional courtroom case around Would a Light You and his face is intense eye contact, layered harmonies, the works. But if you step back and look at it logically, nobody completely honest needs to ask that question that many times. Repeating no, no, no, no, no, does feel a bit defensive. And when someone says, look into my eyes, it does sound like they might be trying to sell you something. So, yes, musically, soulful, heartfelt, and iconic, legally, the jury's still out. My conclusion, it's a brilliant song, they've got terrific voices, but I wouldn't hand them a pin number just yet. And it really made me laugh. I was just like, yeah. So I was like, yeah, and then then it got me looking at all the different random shit that I've asked ChatGBT, and I thought, you know what would be funny to ask somebody how old they think I am based on the questions I've asked Chat GBT. So, like, I'm gonna I'm scrolling through it now. Would that Charles and Eddie? Would they lie to you? Five foot to centimeter conversion, control LG TV with smartphone, uh South Coast weather comparison, coffee intake, just like I'm just like I have uh yeah, low-fat Yorkshire pudding recipe. What the average temperature in San Sebastian, yeah, just greenhouse versus veg bed. So I'm just going through this and thinking I am older than my ears. I I'm asking it for for help with technology, and I'm asking for weather in foreign countries. Because you know, when you get older, all you all I ever remember hearing is people going, Oh, I'm gonna move to Spain, I'm gonna move to Spain. And now all I do is look at the weather in Spain, dreaming about moving to Spain, and I'm just like, oh okay. Whilst also asking how to control my TV with a smartphone because I can't work that out for myself anymore, whilst being replaced and having jokes told to me that are funnier than I can ever dream of. So, yeah, man, just interesting stuff. Interesting stuff. But yeah, that's just a little look look into my world Williams.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

It is scary though that the human race when you go back to the things like you know, come up with a name for uh was it a submarine or a boat, whatever, we make boat into a boat face, it's like and then oh the the power of our. Artificial intelligence. What can we do with this power? Oh, let's ask it what it thinks about a song.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

But have you ever thought about that song, Williams? I mean, it sometimes these songs are there and you just take them for granted. But when you really think about them, I mean you you are the guy who sings the series openers or the episode openers every week.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Yeah, which I should have dropped.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

No, I think I think the listeners want it well. The listeners want you singing. I do.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

But write in, write in if you still want it. I will write in.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Do I have to write in? Well, someone needs to.

unknown 22:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Well, there you go. I will write in and request that you keep singing the songs, Wallyams. But yeah, that was just a bit of a look. So people knocking the door sending me people sending me paving, moldy cars, and Charles and Eddie. What have you got, Wallyams? What have you got? What have you got?

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Not much. I the first again, you know, we're um with recent news. Um up to date, up-to-date news. But this is actually a note from 2025, probably.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 23:10

I made a note. This happened ages ago, but I thought we were gonna record a podcast, and we didn't. Anyways, um, we had the Northern Lights in Cornwall. Oh, awesome! Which um yeah, it was a first. You know, I've been to Iceland to hope to see it, and I've been to Canada, hope to see them. Never did, and then yeah, just a random, random night in uh in Cornwall. A friend of ours messaged in saying, Oh, there's northern lights. Really? Really? Went outside, Northern Lights. Wow, well, you go outside first of all, hang on, and then you really look, you go, Oh, hang on, the clouds are a bit brighter, and then oh, you look a bit closer, you let you let your eyes adjust a bit. Yeah, it's not like a because you get brought up with the the northern lights and the videos you see and stuff, and you kind of expect this like big sort of fire show, like show type thing, but it's not, and you can like let your eyes adjust a bit, and then you go, oh, there's green colours and then the pinks, and then you see it sort of darting through the sky and stuff, and it looks you need obviously a clear night, but there's something about the sky looking sort of thinner, like there's a less like a there's a layer removed type thing. I'm sure there's some sort of science behind it. But uh yeah, my first look at the northern lights.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

Nice, and how did you find it? Was it was it one of those things they wow, did it kind of blow your mind a little bit?

SPEAKER_02 24:46

Usually, so a quick Google through the lights or the Oreara Borealis, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 24:53

Yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

So they're actually a result of solar eruptions sending particles towards Earth, and then the the you know the the way they interact with the earth. It's a coronal mass ejection, a CME, which is a large eruption of charged matter from the sun, and it left the sun. So it left the sun on I think it was the Sunday, and then I think we had it on the the Tuesday, which is bonkers how more or less the speed of light, but it still took like two days to get there. But then also like there's so many people looking up and they're going, ooh, ah, but you're actually getting radiation hit at you from the sun from a coronal mass ejection. Ejection.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

I hate it when you you know when you have a coronal mass ejection.

Coronal Mass Ejection Explained

SPEAKER_02 25:48

Coronal mass ejection in your face, and you just go, ooh, ah is that is that sensible?

SPEAKER_00 25:57

I don't because sort of going to just say you get a coronal mass ejection in your face and go.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Yeah, though, that's that's what it's called. It's called a coronal mass ejection from the sun, which is basically it's basically farted out a load of radiation. No, this is science. And is it science manners? Are you just being really filthy? No, no, it's farted it's called you look it up, it's a coronal mass ejection. Okay, not erection, ejection, farts out what it does, radiation of whatever type. Two days later all over your face. Two days later, it's the earth. We're looking up, we're literally going, uh, with our mouths open, we're looking up and going, oh, and we're just we're being hit by this radiation. With your mouth open.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

I'm sure we're gonna find that 50 years oh, people have suffered because yeah, that's why people get sick because of these coronal mass ejections. Who knows?

Why Photos Beat Your Eyes

SPEAKER_02 26:55

All over your face. Another sort of takeaway I took from it was the photos are always better than the actual look. It was oh of course, yeah. But well, it's different because it's it's better from a visual because you're there, like you know, you know, photos never do things justice, but also with a with a coronal mass ejection, the the photos always sort of take up bring out the colours a lot more. So it it makes you wonder if because I still want to see like the northern lights in Iceland or Lapland or Northern Canada or whatever, because you're higher up and technically less light pollution and stuff, yeah. But I wonder, is it as good as the videos and pictures I've seen? Because based on the photos that I've seen and taken of the Cornish ones, there's definitely a difference. Because I mean you you've got a photography background because the the way you'd let in more light into the camera. Yeah, you look the shutter open for longer. It brings out the the colours more, so you're not actually seeing those amazing vibrant colours that you see on the naked eye when you go, oh let's see that. It's still still fascinating, but wasn't worth it. I think if I've seen on photos, do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 28:16

No, but I think if you go to one of those places where it's the coronal mass injection is the strongest and the least light pollution. Like no stars, no moon. Well, sorry, no moon, sorry, you're gonna get stars, obviously. Yes, you'd see more stars because of less light pollution. I think if you go to one of those places, I think it does get pretty spectacular from what I gather. But yeah, I know what you mean. The cameras, I think, especially in like in the UK where you you can see it, but it's not it's not gonna be the same as if you go up to Recubic or something. No, and go to one of the proper lookout places where they get it a lot. But I've been to Iceland and didn't see a thing, but oh, and that's the only reason you go, really.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

I know, right from the the blue lagoon and the the waterfalls and stuff, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:13

Yeah, it would be pretty cool, but you'd be disappointed going there and not seeing the northern lights, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Yeah, yeah. But now, so it doesn't matter. That's new and cornwall, yeah. You can tick it off the list. And that's it that's again that's something that you uh wouldn't have happened when we were kids. So what's going on in the world? What's going on?

SPEAKER_00 29:33

Well, the same thing that like last year was gonna be big and this year's gonna be even bigger for it. We're gonna get more corrodal mass ejections. Yeah, why why is that? Yeah, I don't I don't know.

Magnetic North Moves And Worries

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Well we should ask Chat GPT if you also because there's something again being geeky, but with the so you've got the North Pole, then you've got the the magnetic north pole, and that actually moves it moves around. Okay. So it's not like you know, Santa Claus is the North Pole stuck in the ground.

SPEAKER_00 30:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:05

Which hopefully you know it actually moves around alert. And I think apparently it's it's starting to move like quite far south. Okay. Where the north is, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Well, I'm gonna throw it to listeners right now. I'm gonna I'm gonna say if there's any listeners out there who actually know this stuff and can explain to us why, please write in. Or if anyone knows how to use Google, let us know.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Because there's like random three. If the if the north magnetic pole drops too far south, then the world will just like stop spinning.

SPEAKER_00 30:43

Okay. And then is that likely to happen anytime soon? So we've got to worry about that.

SPEAKER_02 30:47

Yeah, probably.

Magnets Feel Like Magic

SPEAKER_00 30:48

By season six. I've just I've just paid for some new block paving. Like, am I not even gonna get to enjoy it because the world's gonna get collapsed because of the magnets. Magnets aren't you know what though? Like, when was the last time you played with magnets? Today. They they are nuts, right? Like magnets are just freaky stuff.

SPEAKER_02 31:09

Well, you talk about the powers of brio, brio trains, and obviously got magnets on there.

SPEAKER_00 31:14

Yeah, of course, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's just m it's mad, isn't it? Like magic. It's magic, yeah. People talk about oh, miracles and stuff kind of you're like, well, just put like magnets are just absolutely mad. How do you make a magnet?

SPEAKER_02 31:28

It's do you know you like I used to know there's a science, you can't make one.

SPEAKER_00 31:32

You can?

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

Okay. Because I was like, you don't just go and dig a magnet out of the ground, do you? No, you can make one. Oh, we're gonna have to figure this out. Okay, we should do a special. We should do it, we should do a special called Personal Gnomes Does Science, because we clearly are thick as two short planks. We know nothing about the Aurora Burrellist. We make we make dirty textbooks.

SPEAKER_02 31:56

Yeah 20 years ago, and they're now multi-millionaires doing videos about things like that. So we're a little bit behind.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

Maybe we should do a we should do a reaction video, you know. They're all the rage these days, apparently. Probably like six, seven.

SPEAKER_02 32:10

I need to google it now. How do you make a magnet? There you go. To make a temporary magnet, yeah, you can say you get still needle or nail, and you stroke it 30 to 50 times in one direction with a magnet.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 32:30

But where's the original magnet come from? And well, yeah, we're a chicken and egg situation, isn't it? Where did the first magnet come from?

SPEAKER_00 32:37

It's we should watch a video, Williams, and we should film ourselves watching the video, and then you know, that's what people like to watch. People like to watch people watching things. Yeah, but yeah, if you get a nail and wrap around some.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

That sounds like a lot of hard work. And then you just strike it. You just strike it back and forth.

SPEAKER_00 32:58

Oh dear, he's doing hand gestures again, ladies and gentlemen. Fifty times. Yeah. And then it you have a random mass ejection.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

And then it's charged.

SPEAKER_00 33:10

So his hand gestures were very suggestive and pro uh six seven, six seven if you do it like that one items, you'll end up with friction burn. There'll be no coronal mass ejection there, just pain. Anyway. I think on that filthy note, Wallyams, we should probably let these wonderful people go to bed.

PowerPoint Finale

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Oh, and I should have mentioned the uh the the dad firsts, but um uh Logan made his first PowerPoint presentation. Oh he's so Logan's three, and he's he's really got into I think he's smart, but every dad thinks the kid's smart. But with uh I was doing some work on the laptop, but then he wanted help. So we've got a PowerPoint presentation up, and he can type his name now. So he looks for his name and he types Logan the O. That's a new thing I'm trying to get my head around, is the phonetic alphabet. It's not L O anymore, it's the O.

unknown 34:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:17

Um, and then he also he managed to write the word orange, which he wanted to be the colour blue, but he managed to write the word orange as well. Oh, very good. Yeah, but uh yeah, when I was a kid, um much much older than Logan, I uh put together a PowerPoint presentation, and I put one to uh to my parents and I made a presentation on um where we should go to the Disney Lagoon water park.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 34:45

Um but yeah, the presentation had many slides.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

Oh dear, why dear, all uh, all uh see you next time, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

You get a corona mass ejection in your face, and you just go oooh.