First Look: Comic Con Belfast 2025 & Sidmouth Donkey Sanctuary

Cosplay, comics, and… cuddly donkeys?
In this episode of First Look Gnomes, we dive into two worlds that couldn’t be more different — the vibrant energy of Comic Con Belfast 2025, and the peaceful charm of the Sidmouth Donkey Sanctuary in Devon.

At Comic Con Belfast, we take a first look at the best costumes, panels, and pop culture moments lighting up Northern Ireland’s biggest fan event.

Then, we switch gears for a heartwarming visit to Sidmouth Donkey Sanctuary — discovering how this iconic UK rescue centre cares for hundreds of donkeys and offers a family-friendly day out like no other.

Expect laughs, surprises, and a dash of 90s nostalgia as the gnomes explore both sides of this unique UK adventure.

🎧 Listen now for your first look at Comic Con Belfast 2025 and the Sidmouth Donkey Sanctuary — two very different journeys, one unforgettable episode!

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We chase two “first looks”: a hype-filled Comic Con that tests our patience and wallets, and a donkey sanctuary hedge maze that tests our nerves and sense of humour. Between celebrity queues and toddler sprints, we find what makes memories stick.

• Hitting a surprising rank for “tropical fruits” and welcoming new listeners
• A postcard update from the Know-It-All Gnome and a hint of romance
• Comic Con expectations versus reality, from cosplay craft to queue fatigue
• The economics of paid photos and autographs and why it felt off
• Parenting beats: enjoying fandom without buying access
• Donkey sanctuary maze with a toddler and staying calm when lost
• Small systems for safety, regrouping, and turning panic into play
• Bad jokes, good laughs, and the value of shared stories

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Chapters

• 2:57 Listener Rankings And New Cities
• 4:30 Postcard From The Gno-It-All Gnome
• 8:12 First Looks: Comic Con Expectations
• 11:05 Cosplay Spectacle And Sticker Shock
• 14:10 Paying For Photos And Autographs
• 17:47 Verdict: Comic Con Isn’t For Us
• 18:30 Donkey Sanctuary Trip And Hedge Maze
• 22:05 Lost With A Toddler And A Surprise
• 25:12 Finding The Centre And Getting Out
• 27:15 Nature Poo Philosophy And Parenting

Transcript

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Welcome to FirstLook Gnomes. Your go-to podcast for dads doing silly things. Share tips for dads. And of course, the dad jokes and the bad jokes.

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But most importantly, we're here to share our first looks.

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Don't forget to sending a feedback to our fish bond of feedback.

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And share your thoughts, questions, and own first looks with us at firstluckgnomes at outlook.com.

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Drive my truck midway to the motorway station. Fairlane cruiser coming up the left hand side. Headlight shining, driving rain on the window frame. Little young lady, stardust hitching a ride. And it's FBSode. Ain't never too eight. Me and my pod buddy putding through the night. Series 4, F Soda. Ain't never too late.

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Very good. No, I mean there's gonna be a lot of people who have no idea what that song is.

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I mean that it's by the uh Tom Robson band. That's a proper old one, that is. Everyone knows that song, is it?

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Oh Motorway, it's that's like a 1980s, yeah. That'll be a lot. Classic. Oh classic? I don't know about that, but it's classic now. It's a classic now.

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You've um episode eight.

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Episode eight, and it's never too late. Yeah, I like it, Williams. I like it.

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Good, good. How have you been since episode seven?

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Um it's parenting troubles, Wallyams. We were just talking before this podcast about some of the the challenges of being a parent when your child has the attitude of.

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Any bonus tips for dads? We also had the tips for dads in the last episode. Condoms.

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Straight to the point.

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Oh yeah.

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The uh well, grab grab your rod. Okay, I will. There it is, grabbed it.

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Stick something on it, and uh let's go down to the fish ponder feedback.

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Fishponder feedback.

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No feedback. Uh you might remember from previous episodes.

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Probably not.

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But no, probably not. What why yeah, why would I say that? Rankings. Apple Apple Podcasts. We've actually hit number one for a two-word.

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Oh my goodness. Is this the same term that we're on before?

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Number one. So in in September, if you typed in those two words, you would be number one. Tropical fruits ranked highly for it. Tropical fruits? Tropical fruits, yes. If you typed in tropical fruits, we were number one in the ranking. Unbelievable. That is unbelievable. I mean, it's my fault, I think, of the tropical fruits beard. Probably.

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But who's searching for Tropical Fruits?

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Not quite the audience that we want. Not many people, I don't know. I can't imagine that. But the people that did, we were number one. Very good.

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And I don't know.

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Even if it was a short period.

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You know what? We had our moment in listen, Williams. We had our moment in listen on.

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We did. And we've had some new listeners as well.

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Oh nice.

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Some new listeners from Dane Hill in East Sussex. A new listener from Taipei. A new listener in Dallas, Texas.

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Oh, welcome, Dallas.

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A new listener from Elkhorn in Wisconsin.

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And Springfield. Alabama. Wisconsin isn't Canada. What did you say, sorry? Oh no, sorry, I beg your pardon.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Springfield.

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What was I thinking of?

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Massachusetts. Wisconsin.

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You might have been thinking about Winnipeg. Yeah. Yeah, I'll take that. It was Winnipeg. I was thinking about W.

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Begins at W.

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Wisconsin, Winnipeg. Yeah, very similar.

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Communication has been been quiet though, so please write into fuss at gnomes at outlook.com. It's been not uh not a pin drop. But we've had a postcard, I believe. Oh, very good.

SPEAKER_01: 4:32

Oh, yes, sorry. This is goodness. You know what? This is my brain being all over the show because of the uh said said child problems beforehand. So we have, yes, we have had a postcard. We've had a postcard from the No It All Nome.

SPEAKER_00: 4:53

So I don't know, where is he?

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So at the minute he's in New Zealand now. So he was in Australia and he sent me a postcard from New Zealand.

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Yeah.

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Which is good because and last you know, this is a much more positive one because last time it didn't sound like it was going very well for him, but it sounds like he's doing alright here. So he says, Ke Ora from New Zealand, which I'm assuming is a Kiora.

SPEAKER_00: 5:13

That's a drink, isn't it?

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Well that's yeah, I thought so. So I don't I don't really know why he said that. Maybe it's a it's a well-come.

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It's a tropical fruit drink.

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He says, You'll never add that to the transcription. He says, You'll never believe what's happened. I said off to visit the Lord of the Rings movie set, thinking I'd just pop by for a few photos, maybe pinch a little prop for the garden pond back home, when it all went horribly wrong. Typical this is typical narrow noises.

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Typical no one.

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He was on the tour and the tour guide said he took one look at me and said, Oh look everybody, it's a real hobbit. A real hobbit. I was mortified. I mean, honestly, I might be short, but I never once craved hairy feet or a ring obsession. I tried to explain that I was in fact a gnome of considerable distinction, but then people take it selfies, and one child even asked if I knew Frodo personally. Just when I was about to dig a hole and live under the up to the name, along came Felicity, a charming Kiwi gnome with a twinkle in her eye, a sun hat that was far too big for a head, and the kind of smile that can make even an orc forget his troubles. She comforted me with a flat white and said, Don't worry, love, Hobbits might have had the movies, but gnomes have the magic. And that was that. Since then we've been travelling together, hiking through misty fjords, visiting glow glowworm caves, and even posing for photos at a place called the Shire's Rest, which I'm guessing must be a Lord of the Rings. She laughs every every time someone says we make a cute couple, and I pretend not to blush. Last night we watched the sunset over Lake Taco. Takapo? Am I pronouncing that right? Lake Tacapo. And she said the stars of fairy lights strung up for us. I told her she must be part elf with that kind of talk, and she said I must be part of Hobbit with all the snacks I packed. Two share, I said. So yes, it seems adventure really does await those who wonder. I came looking for middle earth and might have just stumbled into something even rarer. A bit of genuine companionship and romance. Sending love to the bottom of the garden from the bottom of the world, yours adventurously, the know it or no. And in brackets he says Felicity, who says hi and insists she's taller than me, even though she's not. So I was I was like, that's quite annoying. Lovely. I was gonna. He was being referred to as a hobbit, and somebody came over and made a joke about it, and it sounds like since then.

SPEAKER_00: 7:37

But in terms of the relationship with Steak.

SPEAKER_01: 7:40

It sounds like it's good.

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It sounds promising.

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So yeah, I was really nice when I got that. I was really quite happy. I was like, ah, I'm I'm glad he's having a good time because it always seems to be going wrong for him. He's out there, he's trying to experience new things. So it sounds like he's having a charming time.

SPEAKER_00: 7:55

Oh, well, watch his space. We might hear some more about his uh his events. With felicity, uh the kiwi. Yeah, we're having a good time now, or no? First looks, Mishoshkis.

SPEAKER_01: 8:10

On the first looks, yeah, why not?

SPEAKER_00: 8:12

Okay, why not? I'm just gonna blow my nose.

SPEAKER_01: 8:17

Well, recently, recently, Williams, we had so uh to give some context.

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I get a tissue.

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Um again, this may shock you. This may absolutely shock you, but I'm a bit of a nerd. Um, I spend most of my free time playing Mario Kart. Uh, I'm currently smashing um the knockout tours on Mario Kart World. Um, I think I may be the best Mario Kart player in the world. Um, so yes. That's like one of those kind of old old Chinese, like uh a butterfly in the forest flapping its wing causes a hurricane 15 years later. In our case, William sneezes at the bottom of the garden 15 later. There's a tsunami. My goodness, man. Storm in Badfacks. Um, so yes, sorry, as I was saying, as I was saying, uh shocking to know I am a bit of a nerd. Um shocking to know that a nerd has a child who is also a bit of a nerd. Um, and recently Comic Con came to town in Northern Ireland. So we went to Comic Con for the first ever time as a couple of nerds, and I I bought tickets as a surprise for Brain. So I got him tickets and I got him a costume. No, not really. No. Uh the whole thing is an absolute massive rip-off. And we'll we'll talk, we'll talk about it. I'm not that massively impressed. But uh so yeah, I brought I I got Brain a Venom, he likes Venom from the Spider-Man things. He likes Venom, the bad guy. So I got him a Venom costume, and I was like, son, got your got your costume. What's this for? I said, because we're gonna go Comic Com, thinking that could be all excited and stuff, which was cool. So what are you gonna do? And I said, I'm gonna go Steve from Minecraft because I am shaped like Jack Black in real life. I had I shaved the beard, but I did have a beard, and plus brain has like Minecraft toys. So I was like, there we go, easy jumper, jeans, carrier sword, and Jack, I'm Jack Black from Minecraft. Yeah, so we went to Minecraft. I was all excited, I was really looking forward to spending the day with him, like, cool, this is gonna be great. And they got some like that's some big names there. So again, I was like, okay, so Comic Con, there's lots of famous people there, and they do talks and all this kind of stuff, and you can get stuff signed. So they had like Christopher Lloyd, they had Deloreans and Christopher Lloyd from Backs of the Future. Nice. They had like loads of Doctor Who people there, they had like um Tony Robinson, uh Ralph Little, and the guy from oh, what's the guy's name from the Royal Family who plays Jim Royal? Um Ricky Tomlinson and Ralph Little, yeah, and then like wrestlers had like Kurt Angle and Kevin Nash and Jake the Snake Roberts, and then do you remember the Doctor Who was like Britain Britain Britain? They had them that the loads of games, loads of characters from video games. So there's loads of like fairly quite famous people, yeah. But if you want to like get your photograph taken, it's like 50 quid per person. Yeah, and like the queues are massive. I was like, this is ridiculous. So anyway, I'm getting ahead of myself. We drive up, it's this massive kind of exhibition center. So you get into it, and then you have to drive 26 miles to find a car parking space, and you get there, and you can see there are people who were like really taking this seriously, take their cosplay stuff seriously. So we got out of the car brains in this kind of shop bought.

SPEAKER_00: 11:43

Well, that's nice because you get to see their costumes.

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Some of the costumes are incredible. Some of some of them were quite like a lot of the blokes were like the same kind of size as me, wearing homemade costumes that probably they shouldn't have been wearing, like with the belly hanging over the top and all this kind of stuff. And then on the other side, you had a load of slussy-looking girls, like there were loads of girls who dressed as kind of like you know, oh, I'm sexy elf 32, and I'm wearing basically nothing, just enough to cover the bits that shouldn't be seen. And I was like, This is so strange. Then there were some people, there was this one guy there, big fat guy, right? Like big bigger than I am, and he'd he had obviously made this homemade like it was Iron Man's, one of the Iron Man characters, not Iron Man, one of the ones with like a machine gun on his shoulder and everything. And it was incredible. You thought, wow, that is one hell of a costume to make, but it didn't look comfortable.

SPEAKER_00: 12:40

I was just cost of money as well.

SPEAKER_01: 12:42

Yeah, I would say cost you money and time and stuff to make. And you're like, it looked like something out of a movie. I was like, that's incredible. But just I just thought that can't be comfortable to wear. Like, I I as a big guy, I like to wear shorts even when it's cold, like and like a f a full-on movie costume walking around all day, and obviously because it was such a cool costume, everyone was stopping. Like, everybody there was in incredible costumes, taking pictures. We were kind of underdressed, but like I don't know, it was it was definitely a sight to behold. There were some really cool costumes. There was a couple of people who just didn't look very happy. There was this one guy we were walking trying to find the entrance, and there was a guy in a full-on Superman costume, and he did he just didn't look very happy, he just wasn't happy with life, and I wasn't quite sure why. And then I thought, look how tight his pants are. No wonder he's not happy. And you just you're walking around, and yeah, when you get in there, then so you okay. The costumes and stuff are pretty cool. Not gonna lie, the costumes like some of this some of these are pretty cool. Wouldn't be my cup of tea. It's like it's a bit too far to go to all that trouble to make a costume. Or they're saying that we did used to in the past.

SPEAKER_00: 13:48

We made some but that's the people attending, that's not the exhibition people, is it?

SPEAKER_01: 13:52

No, the the exhibition people then, so you get in, and they've got some like they've got old movie props and stuff, like they had some of the Jurassic Park cars, and there was a Ghostbusters Northern Ireland stand, some of it was pretty cool. But I was a bit like, well, what do we do now? We're here. I didn't really know what we were meant to do, because there's some stalls and there's loads of stuff for sale, so you can spend a fortune if you wanted. Yeah, but some of the stuff that was for sale was real like deep geek culture and geek lore. I was like, okay, where's the like retro video game standing? No, no, no. It's fine if you're into into like a weird Japanese cartoon with different types of swords, and like, oh, that's a sword from episode 3D when such and such fought such and such, and oh, it's got the blood of the dragon on it, and like oh okay, like uh it was too much for me. There was it was too deep. I was like, I'm looking for kind of too deep.

SPEAKER_00: 14:48

This is too geeky.

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This is too geeky for me. I was like, Ghostbusters, yes, like Ghostbusters, but at the same time, I'm like, I like Ghostbusters, they're a good couple of movies, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 14:57

But I don't I don't want to know about the physics Ghostbusters comic book series, two episodes.

SPEAKER_01: 15:04

Yeah, it was a bit, it was a bit much, it was a bit much, and the Ghostbusters was kind of the the light level of it, like Ghostbusters was like it was all the really deep like wow, who are these characters and how do you know them? And and then what you meant to do, like it there was people walking around like with swords they bought, other stuff they're bought, and I was like, What is what is all this?

SPEAKER_00: 15:26

And I suppose so did you actually see any of the famous people, or do you only see them if you pay the no you can go and watch you could go and watch some signings?

SPEAKER_01: 15:34

So we went and had a bit of a look, and we're like, Oh, there's Kyle Angle, and oh yeah, there's Christopher Lloyd and stuff, but the cues to to get anywhere near were massive, and then like if you want a photo taken, it's like 200 quid. So like there was there's like photo of both sections, and I just thought the cues to actually yeah, meet these people were just so big.

SPEAKER_00: 15:53

I thought that must have been making the ticket, then you gotta pay more.

SPEAKER_01: 16:00

So we didn't. I was like, there was no one brain's too young, like brain's not interested in celebrities yet, so we didn't bother with any of that. But it's just it it felt I don't know, it felt weird. It just felt weird queuing to pay somebody to have their signature. I was like, I don't know. Like I understand getting a signature, like say you go to a football match and you're outside the stadium as the players arrive and you hand like oh can you can you can you sign this? It's quite fun. But this whole idea of paying for it, I'm like, I don't know, is would you pay 50 quid to have somebody sign something? Like Christopher Lloyd's signature was 200. Like 200 pounds. There was there was there was a guy there, he took five items, and it's 200 pounds.

SPEAKER_00: 16:45

But that's because there's been a massive industry because so many people now sort of sticking stuff in eBay and selling it and making an industry of selling stuff. So all the deputies now know people selling stuff, so they won't sign stuff without getting paid for it. Yeah, true. Because they know someone's gonna sell it for that 500 quid on eBay. So it's yeah, so that's the unfortunate world we're in now. But I've got Sir Bobby Robson's autograph on the book, his autobiography in Nottingham all those years ago. But uh I don't yeah, I didn't pay for it, I just queued up at Waterstones when he was selling his book, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 17:24

I wasn't a massive fan of it, to be honest. Fair play to all the cost the people who've done the costumes is clearly cool. Fair play, I think, to the the groups who were there and clearly having the time of their lives, but I just it wasn't for me. Comic Con wasn't for me. Two somethings from from uh pointless point of view, Wallyam's two somethings.

SPEAKER_00: 17:48

My first look. Yes, we went on holiday recently, and um as a first look in terms of the destination for Logan um was the donkey sanctuary in um Sidmouth. Um also some first looks for me as well. So the the they spent loads of money on it, they've got a new um sort of cafe, um, which sort of Georgie joked was sponsored by me because I did ages ago, years ago, years and years ago, I adopted a donkey for her. Um and I never got around to cancelling the direct debit. We stopped getting the things for in the post, and I was meant to cancel it, I never did. So yeah, we joked that the cafe was sponsored by Darren Williams. But yeah, new cafe there, and I did donkeys and stuff. But yeah, went went there with with Logan and I had my first look at the the the maze, they've got a hedge maze. Okay. So we went to this hedge maze. Logan was excited for it because we had a little map and sort of oh, there's a maze at this donkey sanctuary in Sidmorth. On the map, the maze graphic was sort of quite simple. I could you know do it in five minutes. Brilliant. So we go in, go into this hedge maze. Oh, left, right, oh left, right, doubly jubly. And then it's like oh no, we're lost, and so we're getting around, just you know, I'm I'm I'm still smiling having fun, and sort of Logan's running around, but then like Logan's like running ahead and like Logan, Logan! Oh wow, yes, flipping heck because you know if yeah, that's you could obviously panic, but you don't want to, it's like, oh no, I um yeah, it was like a it was a good maze, it was a good maze. So we're getting lost in there, and then but you know, I've we've managed to keep him with us, and then you're kind of like, Oh we don't know when actually we're gonna get out now, so you're starting to think this is fun, but yeah, it's now out of my control when we're gonna leave. It's like all right, we're leaving now five minutes. So Logan, you know, he tripped over, face planted, dirt, dirt in the mouth and stuff. I'm like, oh no, if this doesn't go back to normal quickly, we're in a maze with a screaming, unhappy toddler. But you know, he was a trooper and cleaned him up and he's good to go. And yeah, we're wandering around for ages, and and then so you know, left, right, oh dead end, oh, left, right, left, right, right, right, left. And then we turn we get to this one dead end, right? We turn to it, we stop, and then sort of me and the wife, we look down, and we're like, we look at each other, and then Logan points to it and goes, Pooh. There's a human, a human poo in this dead end. This dead end of this maze is a big heap of human poo. So someone's so we're we're now panicking in terms of someone's obviously been stuck in here for a long time and they've needed to go, and they've just gone, right, I'm gonna have a dump. And the most polite place to go is at a dead end. And they've had this dump. How'd you know it was a human poo? You know you can tell. You know the difference between a human poo. You sure if I if I if I put in front of you a dog, you would know the difference, surely.

SPEAKER_01: 21:16

You know you do. I don't know. I've never thought about it that deeply. Depends on if it's a big dog.

SPEAKER_00: 21:22

You've picked up enough dog poo's in your time. You know, I know you haven't picked up a human poo, but so that that poor g you've had you've had human poo's yourself, so you know what the difference is. So not to get into details, but they look different, don't they?

SPEAKER_01: 21:35

Oh, poor person, whoever's done that poo, that's that's bad, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00: 21:38

Sorry, sorry, co cobrance.

SPEAKER_01: 21:40

You love co you love co-brown, don't you?

SPEAKER_00: 21:43

No, but they're just they keep coming up in our in our lives. But um, yeah, and then Logan finds the player.

SPEAKER_01: 21:50

You should literally get a t-shirt that says shit happens.

SPEAKER_00: 21:54

But yeah, but then we started thinking up well, someone's obviously been here for a longer time. Then we start panicking up what are we gonna do? You know, if we're stuck here for a while, we need to go, you know, what do you what do you do? You start panicking, and then eventually we find the middle. Wait, you found the middle, and there's like a congratulations sign, you found the middle. And we sit there for a little break, and Lego's like, yeah, we did it. Then I'm thinking, we still need to get out.

SPEAKER_01: 22:22

But yeah, we uh there's usually a straight X out, isn't there? You don't have to go around the whole back through.

SPEAKER_00: 22:28

No, no, no, you still gotta yeah, you still gotta go back through again where you came. Oh yeah, yeah. Goodness mate. But um it didn't take us as long to get there, but um yeah, kind of avoided the dead end of the the poo. But yeah, I mean the last time we did a hedge maze, it was like you could step over the hedge. So I went, I think I was in Woburn Abbey years ago, and it's like oh we're stuck, and we just went, just step over it, just cheat and go over the top. But this one, this one was yeah, this one was it was pretty good, yeah. So I recommend it. Donkey Sentry, go in the maze, but just prepare, it's not as easy as you first think with a two-year-old to do prepare that you might be in there longer than you uh want to. And use the toilet. We actually got this. We went to the new went to the new cafe and spent ages in the new cafe and then in the maze, and then Logan loved the playground, so we didn't actually see that many donkeys really, but but yeah, that was the first look into the donkey maze in the donkey sanctuary in Sydney.

SPEAKER_01: 23:29

Did you feel at any point claustrophobic? Like a bit like, oh, I don't like this.

SPEAKER_00: 23:33

A little bit. It was more the it was more Logan running away and getting lost. Ah, that would shit me up. But being in because it's one of those weird things because they wouldn't be that far away. You could always hear them, but you couldn't quite work out how to get them. Yeah. So it's a case of well, they're literally there, but I can't go through the hedge. But and then being a two-year-old, he's gonna just keep running around and not.

SPEAKER_01: 23:56

Oh, you may never find him ever again.

SPEAKER_00: 23:59

Yeah. And then yeah, the the the added human poo in the dead end, that kind of like, oh did you did you at any point kind of get your phone out and GPS where you were?

SPEAKER_01: 24:10

Because obviously, like on Google Maps, you can kind of see dark you can zoom in and be like, oh right.

SPEAKER_00: 24:15

Yeah, but it's not really it's a big maze, but not big enough for you to go, right, Google Maps. Okay. So it wouldn't it wouldn't really work. And then we sort of like worried, well, hang on, because next to the uh I mean initially we never actually checked, but we presumed the so beside the maze was the memorial wall, and we thought the memorial wall was for the donkeys, but then we started thinking, oh hang on, this might be the memorial wall for the people that didn't survive the maze.

SPEAKER_01: 24:44

It sounds awesome. There's not that many mazes around these days, is there?

SPEAKER_00: 24:48

There isn't. No, it could always be it could always sorry. Yeah, in the old days. In the old days there was always a hedge. Just you know.

SPEAKER_01: 24:57

I don't know if there was yeah, human feces in them, which is a yeah, definitely a bit concerning.

SPEAKER_00: 25:02

No. It reminds me of the uh the Harry Potter one with the the maze, the hedge maze.

SPEAKER_01: 25:08

Oh yes, goblet of fire.

SPEAKER_00: 25:10

Yes, yes, yes, it reminded me of that.

SPEAKER_01: 25:12

Yeah, the extended version where Harry gets caught short and has to take a shit. Yeah, a different a different kind of expellia. Yes, yes. Have you ever been caught short while himself needed to poo outside?

SPEAKER_00: 25:28

I have not.

SPEAKER_01: 25:29

Have you said not, no, but like I remember Braden was out. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm I'm sure. Um I'll tell you about this off air. That the uh the uh he's done before that's what I said. Okay. I haven't I haven't told you that story, have I? Yeah, I've oh my goodness. Something about a fox, wasn't it?

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There's one in a pretty previous episode, but we didn't broadcast.

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Thank goodness, thank goodness for that. No, the jokes aside, the Brain went out with his friend and his friend's dad, and his friend got caught short, and they're like, cool, okay, so what do you have to do? So they brain's always like, Oh, don't worry, if you ever actually need to, you can just do a nature poo. Just nature, a nature poo. I was like, that's a nice way to put it. Do you reckon whoever's walking around your maze just thought, uh, this is lovely. I'll just do a nature poo. Just do a nature poo.

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I'm in nature. I mean it's a yeah, it's a gravel path, but yeah, with hedges around me.

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And was it fresh?

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Uh well I don't know. I didn't poke us if it was warm.

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Was the steam emerging from this? Uh there was there was there's no steam.

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So yeah, I think uh Yeah.

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The things you see, Walem's are things you see.

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It might still be wandering the maze now, who knows? Who knows? Might not across who knows. Who knows? Yeah. Uh but uh anyways, um yeah, to end on uh in a bit of a note. Um I once directed a theatrical performance about puns. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was uh it was a play on words.

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Uh very good.

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Alright, alright, alright.

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So what happened to the bad jokes? Or the bad jokes now, this are dad jokes.

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That was a bad joke.

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That was the bad joke. I enjoyed it. It's very much a dad joke, isn't it? It's a bad dad joke.

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Uh yeah, they they blur into one sometimes. That's it. That's it. Alright, everybody, until next time. Email us first at name southern.com.

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Well see if Dave Benton Phillips can uh do you reckon he's listened to any episodes yet? Tropical fruits. Tropical fruits.

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Tropical fruits.

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Bye everybody.

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Bye everyone.

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